How to Record Veetle Streams

[corporate_gadfly]

So, I stumbled upon the stream URL for how to record Veetle streams. I was running on Linux, and I started up my browser (galeon) from a terminal window. After the browser started up, I went to Veetle - View Channel (http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=48cb03bd8ab18) to see one of the channels. As the plugin was initializing, I saw the following diagnostic output from my terminal (coming from vlc):

VLC media player 0.9.8 Janus
Waiting on accept...
Veetle remote control interface initialized. Type `help' for help.
Connecting back to port 45429.
Done!
Unknown option: 'name'
Unknown option: 'progid'
Unknown option: 'type'
Unknown option: 'pluginspage'
Unknown option: 'height'
Unknown option: 'width'
http 0.0.0.0:56043
Reparent: 37748737
parentwin: returned 0 (no error)
status change: ( audio volume: 1024 )
[00000252] main interface error: OSD menu volume update failed
int mylibvlc_playlist_add_extended(mylibvlc_instance_t *, const char*, const char*, int, const char**, libvlc_exception_t*)
Trying to add http://127.0.0.1:56043/64.62.163.66,48cb03bd8ab18 to playlist.
add: returned 0 (no error)
vlcplugin.cpp:395 void LibVlcInstanceMgr::playJustOneInstance(int, int, libvlc_exception_t*)
status change: ( new input: http://127.0.0.1:56043/64.62.163.66,48cb03bd8ab18 )
status change: ( audio volume: 1024 )
status change: ( play state: 1 )
status change: ( audio volume: 1024 )


So, the part about http://127.0.0.1:56043/64.62.163.66,48cb03bd8ab18 is the magic URL for streaming/recording.

You can confirm the port 56043 by looking at the output of netstat -tanp | grep vlc which in my case was
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:45429 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 856/vlc
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:37356 127.0.0.1:56043 ESTABLISHED856/vlc
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:60110 127.0.0.1:45429 ESTABLISHED856/vlc

I tested this same procedure on my buddy's windows machine. Since there is no debug output from firefox that I can see, you have to use the netstat trick again. You can use -b switch which will show you executables involved in creating the connection. After that look for vlc.exe and find the port that's associated with that line and then simply construct a URL with everything else in tact, except for the channel that you are watching and the port that you just discovered.

Thoughts?

[Admin]

So every channel has it's own URL? And it's always based on your pc, or will this url work for everyone for 1 specific channel?

[corporate_gadfly]

So every channel has it's own URL? And it's always based on your pc, or will this url work for everyone for 1 specific channel?

The last part of the URL (after the slash) is indeed constant. The IP address after the slash corresponds to veetle's IP address. The number after the comma corresponds to the channel. The port, unfortunately, can only be determined by looking at netstat output or browser diagnostic messages.

Give it a try and see if you are successful. I'm interested to hear other people's experiences.

[keeptestin]

I've been testing a bit, but everytime I successfully connect from a vlc client the "server" get disconnected thus only getting a few seconds of video on vlc client

[J-MC]

Thanks a lot, it works for me perfectly, just as long as I don't browse away from the Veetle page

[jcm1973]

Is there any change someone can do a sticky on this I for one do not understand how you get the ip address and port the explanation above is far to complecated form me and maybe others thanks in advance.

[shaggy]

Thank you so much!!! Been wanting to do this for a while now so I can stream to my 360.

[surikov]

Write, with the help of what program it is possible to record stream veetle, after reception link

[wigan88]

Write, with the help of what program it is possible to record stream veetle, after reception link

That is what I would like to know as well. What program were you using to record the stream?

Wigan :D

[galacticos23]

That is what I would like to know as well. What program were you using to record the stream?

Wigan :D

You can use vlc to record it, if that is what you mean by what program.

Or are you asking for the link once the channel starts? That even I would like to know :)

[yonthe]

Works for me, thanks for the info! Very very helpfull!

[galacticos23]

Works for me, thanks for the info! Very very helpfull!

Can you tell me what URL you used to record the stream? Thanks a lot!

[galacticos23]

Can you tell me what URL you used to record the stream? Thanks a lot!

Btw, I've a MAC. thanks!

[yonthe]

http://127.0.0.1:[PORT]/64.62.163.66,[CHANNEL-ID]

You need to find the port by using netstat. The channel-id you can find by looking at the veetle channel URL.
I am not sure how netstat works on a mac, it should be possible though.

[galacticos23]

http://127.0.0.1:[PORT]/64.62.163.66,[CHANNEL-ID]

You need to find the port by using netstat. The channel-id you can find by looking at the veetle channel URL.
I am not sure how netstat works on a mac, it should be possible though.

Thanks a lot! It works. I've another question though!

I'm trying to record it using vlc. What should the Encapsulation Method be? I tried a few different things but I'm not able to convert the output file to any other format. None of the converters recognize the file. any help would be appreciated! Thanks a lot!

[klebsiela]

Hi!
I'm trying to record Veetle and have some questions.

1)I have slightly different IP of the Veetle, 64.62.163.72 Is this possible?

2)I used netstat and TCPview for determining ports(and also Veetle IP) but there are whole bunch of them. Which should I use?

3) I'm using router. Could there be any problems because of it?

Here's capture of TCPview:


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3071/3049277545_ab85cf10de_o.jpg


Bye

Bojan

[zacman]

Tutorial Veetle in VLC for Windows.

First download TCP-View at >> TCPView for Windows (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897437.aspx)

Then start Browser and open you´re favorite channel.

Start tcp-view and it will automaticly start to capture connections.

Sort the connections by clicking on Processes and scroll down until you find vlc.exe and note the portname after the Localhost or 127.0.0.1 (same thing)

http://mokorset.se/filez/tcp.jpg

Then check the url in you´re browser and note the CID ( Channel-ID)

http://mokorset.se/filez/url.jpg

Now if not already download and install Vlc at >> VLC media player - Overview (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/)

Open up vlc, go to Media > Open network

And from the following outpup from above create the stream url

http://127.0.0.1:55131/64.62.163.66,489e78e9b8936

Now you can watch and record the stream with Vlc-Player and remember that you need to have the browser open with the Veetle-channel online.

//zacman

[klebsiela]

Thank you, zacman this is a step further for me
Of course I have some problems.
1) I managed to open Veetle stream in VLC but after some time the stream in browser stops and only the stream in VLC is still running. I believe there is nothing wrong with this.

2) Then when I want to record the stream there is a real problem. In VLC I went to Convert/save and 'stream output' opened. I checked 'file' and made a file. But than I find a lot of options in 'profile' from encapsulation, video and audio codecs and so on. I tried with flv in encapsulation but after the 'OK' the stream breaks and I loose the picture and sound. FLV records though because the file I made is geting bigger. After a while I stop the recording and check the file and I only get sound and no video in this file. I believe there is something wrong with my setings.
What should be the settings in 'stream output' window?.

Thanks

Bojan

[Umutk]

1) Nothing wrong I think (as long as VLC keeps running, otherwise press play again ;).)

2) Sorry, can't help you with that one :(.

[SHARE2]

only use encapsulation RAW nothing else ;) (and play local if you want to watch it @ the same time)

[theworm2345]

Whenever I try to record this it crashes my stream, anyone know why? What is encapsulation RAW SHARE2?

[SHARE2]

thats the option you should use when you record it with vlc

[theworm2345]

OK, after some tinkering I got it to work, thanks alot, no more edits :)

[galacticos23]

Hey, can you tell me how you got around it?

I'm having problems recording it through vlc.

Thanks a lot!

[petr.povolny]

Hi guys,
I was looking for a way how to save the veetle stream for ages and this one looked very promissing. However, it does not work for me.

The basic problem is that the VCL player won't evern play the channel, so it can't save it. Veetle in browser runs OK in both MSIE and Firefox.

When I open the VLC player and select Open Network and enter URL:
http://127.0.0.1:2994/64.62.163.66,489e78e9b8936 (cause TCPView said the 2994 was THE port), I get error message window: VLC can't open MRL 'http://127.0.0.1:2994/64.62.163.66,489e78e9b8936'. Check logs for details.

But there are no forther logs.

When I try the other port (there are 2 lines with VLC in the TPCView) the player says 'Opeing' and then after while it just clears the status line.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Petr

[Umutk]

I believe you should use the second (or last if there are more ;)) line in TCPView, Usually this works for me. If it stops, press play again and it should work again (unless Veetle stops working or crashes, then it might use another port when you restart it ;)).

[petr.povolny]

... but as I wrote earlier, the URL just gets displayed in the status line, nothing plays. After couple of seconds, the status line is cleared out. When I click PLAY again, the address goes to the status line for couple more seconds. When I click PLAY for fourth time or so, the veetle crashes ... and I have to change the port in the URL to try again :).

Petr

[Umutk]

Hmm.. then I don't know what more it could be :(.

[supertex]

hi there i have some problem regarding playing and recording the veetle's stream.
First of all i have follow all the guide in the forum but when the veetle channel freeze in black windows my vlc player can't open the video stream.
Any help....
thanks a lot.........

[patchwerk]

Sort the connections by clicking on Processes and scroll down until you find vlc.exe and note the portname after the Localhost or 127.0.0.1 (same thing)

Can't find vlc.exe in TCP View, only firefox.exe. What am I not doing?

[DirtyManc]

Not much help I know, but it looks like they've stopped using VLC and now use their own player (player.exe) which shows up in TCPView.

Still can't get it to work though :mad:

[theworm2345]

Not much help I know, but it looks like they've stopped using VLC and now use their own player (player.exe) which shows up in TCPView.

Still can't get it to work though :mad:

They must still be using VLC because when I open a Veetle channel they make me OK opening VLC, though I can't record either anymore

[Redbullsnation]

Nice, I finally got the guide to work!!

[pfa]

Just a note for anyone (probably Windows) who hasn't got this working. The 64.62.163.66 address is not necessarily so. Do a:

c:\> ping Veetle - home (http://www.veetle.com)

and grab the address that comes back. In my case I got:

Reply from 77.67.108.146: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=55
Reply from 77.67.108.146: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=55
Reply from 77.67.108.146: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=55

(so in other words it's 77.67.108.146)

[mikro112]

Can anybody please confirm that viewing of the veetle stream in VLC is still possible. I tried the explanation from zacman's post, but it couldn't get it to work.

Maybe somebody can help me!

That was the url, which I used:
http://127.0.0.1:50300/77.67.108.147,4a6f518d7dfac

Thanks in advance!

[supertex]

can please anybody that has succesed in recording veetle stream confirm that is still possible to record from it.
If anybody have a guide to do that could please explain to us how to do that.
thanks in advice
supertex

[icapsport]

I have managed to play veetle streams in VLC but everytime I cap it via VLC it only caps the sound :( oh well.

edit: nvm I got it working

[belia269]

Well...
I've been trying to open a veetle stream in VLC, but couldn't get it to work, as I don't find a "vlc.exe" in TCPView...
Can anyone help me?
I'm running Windows 7 with firefox.

[icapsport]

Its player.exe, and its the second process of it (when sorted in alphabetical order)

[dieltx]

I learned how to record veetle unlimitally. I can record as much as i can and whatever channel i can. There is a little trick though, b/c if you just follow the instructions zacman gives you, the stream crashes within seconds. My way it doesn't.
> Just post in public, thanks, nothing to hide! <

[DEAD_MAN_WALKING]

I learned how to record veetle unlimitally. I can record as much as i can and whatever channel i can. There is a little trick though, b/c if you just follow the instructions zacman gives you, the stream crashes within seconds. My way it doesn't.
> Just post in public, thanks, nothing to hide! <

Can you elaborate a bit more or is it top secret...?

[jnov]

I have tried this method, but the stream dies within 20 seconds (in the browser and in the recording vlc). Did Veetle change something to terminate the stream if more than 2 viewers (vlc's) are connected? Some way around it?

[FedFed]

Thanks for all but channel's falling when i load it via VLC.
Linux, Firefox.

[gomounir]

the actual ip of veetle is not the same as the one on the first page .


http://127.0.0.1:5110077.67.109.221,4be5481a3c39f

here is the actual ip

[dadebue]

Hey,
I've got the same problem. The stream in my browser chrashes after just a few seconds. Veetle doesn't allow two clients on one stream. But then I tried to open ONE stream in two different browsers and it worked. I'm not too good in programming so I can't create something out of this info but maybe some programmers can. :cool_new:

Best regards
dadebue

[keithkeith]

I understand how to locate the port and the veetle ID. But I dont understand how to locate 64.62.163.66.....Please help......thanks so much



http://127.0.0.1:56043/[HOW TO LOCATE?],48cb03bd8ab18

[gamechick]

i dont understand how to do this

[vvpulsevv]

No updates to this issue?

[airliebird58]

Hi all, I've been through both the Veetle threads and just wondered if it was possible to watch a Veetle stream through a media server to your main TV? I have a PS3 and my TV has a media server too. In the past I've managed to get sopcast etc working through the PS3 with Orb. Is this possible with Veetle?
Thanks :D

[netimports]

Here is a bit more detailed steps to explain how to view/record Veetle in VLC (Windows Version)

Tools Needed:
VLC Player > http://videolan.org
TCPView or CurrPorts > http://nirsoft.net/utils/cports.zip
For this example i'll be using the Turtle Cam broadcast: http://veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4c2adb91303af

1. Install VLC if you don't have it. Unzip cport.zip to a folder.

2. Open the stream you would like to watch in your browser like you would normally and leave it open while you do the rest of the steps.

3. Once the stream has started, run cports.exe from the folder you unzipped cports.zip from.

4. cports will show you the tcp connections, scroll down till you see player.exe:

http://imgur.com/2GMfE.jpg

5. What were looking for is the last player.exe in the list and the remote port# thats in the red oval. So from this display we will be using port 56664

6. Now open VLC and goto Media > Open Network Stream

7. in the box where it says Please enter a network URL: your going to type in the following (for this example i'll be using the turtle cam broadcast) (Replace the colored text values with what you see in cports and what stream id you be using:

http://127.0.0.1:56664/77.67.109.221,4c2adb91303af
Stream ID will be shown in your browser address bar e.g.
http://www.veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4c2adb91303af
the text in blue is the stream ID.

8. Once your done inputing the information Click on Play.

9. Now VLC should start playing the stream(Pic1), after anywhere from 10-60sec the stream in your browser will stop (LEAVE IT OPEN and don't reload, just leave it as is)(Pic2), after the browser's player stops, VLC will stop shortly after (15-30sec later) Just click on Play (Pic3) and your set! now you can watch/record the stream just don't close your browser with the Veetle window.

10. To Sum up:


http://127.0.0.1:Port#/77.67.109.221,Stream ID

Port# = Get it From cports.exe

Stream ID = from your browser address bar

77.67.109.221 = Veetle's current server, it will change over time the easiest way to get the new server ip is to do a broadcast in Veetle and then run the cports and look for vlc_encoder.exe and look at the remote address (ignoring the local 127.0.0.1):
http://imgur.com/fri0f.jpg

To record the stream > VLC > Media > Convert / Save > Network Tab > Type in the url of the stream e.g.
http://127.0.0.1:56664/77.67.109.221,4c2adb91303af and click on convert/save, choose your destination and profile settings and click on start.

And that all folks!

:DNetimports:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HNMqw9BVcQ
Picture References:

(Pic1)
http://imgur.com/U3KmE.jpg

(Pic2)
http://imgur.com/r3owa.jpg

(Pic3)
http://imgur.com/ubvqu.jpg

[Graham7]

That is great to record one movie I try to record wall street I only get the sound but no picture. Tried two others and works fine might be done different.

[netimports]

lol;-), thats my stream your trying to record. Just goto piratebay its going to be a better quality since i'm broadcasting it at a lower bitrate.

[Graham7]

lol;-), thats my stream your trying to record. Just goto piratebay its going to be a better quality since i'm broadcasting it at a lower bitrate.

I watch it yesterday and just found this to record all so. Thanks for wall street not a bad movie. :)

[gamechick]

i cant seem to get this to work

[paulmck1888]

I got it working on VLC thanks to netimsport's great guide:D I'l try recording later, never been able to manage that on VLC:D

[FedFed]

Also, wanted to say, in Linux it's even easier to catch the link, just enter firefox in the command line, run the stream and you'll see it's url right there.

[timlab1955]

Okay, I have followed all the instructions to recording Veetle. My problem is this: Once I hit the play button again, I see the movie playing in the VLC player, then I go and select convert/save, then click on network and make sure all the information for the URL is correct (which most of the time it is). The I browse to a location where I want to save it, and then type in a name of the movie that I want to save it as, but I have to put an extension on it (ex: Movie.MP4). Then when I click save and watch at the same time, and then click okay, the picture freezes, but I hear sound. If I don't do this, the whole movie get's saved, but when I go and play it back I see the picture, but no sound. Is anyone out there that can solve this for me? Thanks in advance.

[FedFed]

Okay, I have followed all the instructions to recording Veetle. My problem is this: Once I hit the play button again, I see the movie playing in the VLC player, then I go and select convert/save, then click on network and make sure all the information for the URL is correct (which most of the time it is). The I browse to a location where I want to save it, and then type in a name of the movie that I want to save it as, but I have to put an extension on it (ex: Movie.MP4). Then when I click save and watch at the same time, and then click okay, the picture freezes, but I hear sound. If I don't do this, the whole movie get's saved, but when I go and play it back I see the picture, but no sound. Is anyone out there that can solve this for me? Thanks in advance.Try dumping stream without on the fly conversion.

[white_snake]

Great guide netimports!
As for finding Veetle's server IP, your method didn't work for me, so I had to find another way to get through it. I just ran cmd and typed in "ping veetle.com" (without the quotes), and in a matter of seconds I got Veetle's server IP.

Hope it helps. ;-)

[JokoHama]

Here is a bit more detailed steps to explain how to view/record Veetle in VLC (Windows Version)

Thanks a lot!!!

Everything works fine now!!! :)

[netimports]

Alright so its been a while and veetle has introduced the "low quality" version of some streams.
What I'm going to show you is how to play these streams in VLC or other media players.
It's very simple and has just a couple of steps.
These streams are of a lower quality which consist of 400k for video and 64k for audio, still decent enough to watch and shows a much better quality then using veetles viewer.

Lets get started!

First you need to check and see if the stream has a lower quality version available, and you do that by opening the channel in your browser and clicking on the HD button, if it starts playing then your good, if it gives you the message that lower quality version is not available then you need to use my other method described in my blog.

Once you have verified that HD button works all you going to do is copy the stream ID off the address bar in your browser, in the example below the stream ID is 4d797f3855e7d:

http://i.imgur.com/6ayi6.jpg

Next your going to open VLC > Media > Open Network Stream:

http://i.imgur.com/F9Mp8.jpg

Two addresses can be used for now just pick one of them or use the other if any issues arise:


http://77.67.108.152/flv/4d797f3855e7d
or

http://77.67.109.208/flv/4d797f3855e7d

Replace the stream ID (shown in red in above example) with the stream ID that you copied.

Once you have entered the address, click on play.
Thats it! now you can watch or record the show.

You can also create a playlist of your favorite channels and instead of keeping changing channels on veetle, you can just click on your playlist and enjoy your videos in minimal time!

Also note that once the movie/show your currently watching ends the player stops, you need to either change the playlist to be in a loop or just click play on vlc to start it again.

*Update*
Made a little custom live rss feed to show the flash enabled streams available on veetle.

Its a live listing so it changes everytime it reloads, so whatever streams that are flash enabled at that time will be shown in the list.

You can copy and paste the link into your mobile or desktop video players like vlc,smplayer and such and create your own playlist for a quicker access to channels.

Just another alternative for people having issues with the HD option on veetle and on mobile devices.

Feed > Veetle Flash Stream RSS (http://feed43.com/veetle.xml)

Some video players you can use to view:

SMPlayer> http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/
File > Url > paste the stream link > Ok

VLC > http://www.videolan.org/
Media > Open Network Stream > paste the stream link > Play

[ronall057]

have noticed in lower quality mode orbit downloader can now record veetle streams . i use version 3.0.0.

[Demupa]

When I try to record with VLC 1.1.9 the stream stops then starts again but after about 2-5mins the stream dies and have to start all over again. Is there a guaranteed method so that the stream doesn't stop loading and i.e worth recording?

[daumas77]

Procedure to record and simultaneously view a live veetle stream.

This procedure was performed under Kubuntu 11.04 64-bit, with Chrome 64-bit,
and the veetle 64-bit beta plugin, available here: http://s1.veetle.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2312

1. Open a bash shell

2. Run chrome and connect to the veetle channel you want

3. In the bash shell window, locate the url to the channel stream.
It will be of the form http://127.0.0.1:50287/77.67.109.221,4d823c61675dd.

4. Copy the url from the bash window into the clipboard.

5. Run 2 instances of VLC.

6. In the first VLC window, click Media -> Open Network Stream and paste in the url, and click Play

7. Wait until BOTH the browser video stops and the VLC player video stops. Don't close either one.

8. In the second VLC window, click Media -> Convert/Save -> Network (tab) -> Please enter a network URL: -> <paste in the URL> -> click Convert/Save -> Destination file: -> /tmp/livestream.ps
-> check the [x] Dump raw input -> click Start

9. Back to the first VLC window, click Media -> Open File -> Name: -> /tmp/livestream.ps -> click Open

10. You will now be effectively recording the stream to a file with one VLC instance, and viewing the recording file at the same time.