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    they should come up with technology first imo, not only ghost goals but offside goals as well. Pens are cruel but also exciting. For me 1000 times better than for example the crap silver and golden goals or an extra shoot out match. In fact there are some crap rules like red cards for commiting penalty with a scoring oppotunity. Why not change that first?

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    Hmm?? Why?? Do you want a replay ala FA Cup?? That would be turruble

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    I didnīt watch the FA Cup tbh

    Iīd like to see something similair to what they do in icehockey. The refs should apply the rules (in doubt no offside) and if itīs a goal and there were doubts they should watch the replay. Takes 30 secs.

    I watch mostly spanish football and there were way too many strange decissions. With technology at least some of these things wouldīt be possible, but maybe thatīs the problem theyīre probably pretty happy that these things do happen...

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    I didn't meant instant replays, I meant FA Cup Replays

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    I'm in favour of video replays being used, although I can understand some objections. It does often happen that after watching numerous replays, commentators still aren't sure of what happened, and different commentators will come to different conclusions. Part of the problem is that the rules are not always clear.

    I disagree about the red card for stopping a clear goalscoring opportunity - if this rule was removed, you'd see defenders deliberately fouling players to prevent them scoring. Sometimes it's applied a little harshly, but again this is down to interpretation of vaguely worded rules.

    What was wrong with the Golden Goal? Seemed a fairer solution than penalties to me. Never really understood why it was removed again..
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    I like penalties meself

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    Quote Originally Posted by bertcocaine View Post
    What was wrong with the Golden Goal? Seemed a fairer solution than penalties to me. Never really understood why it was removed again..

    It's a long walk home from Moscow ect when you miss your flight because you are watching 2 teams go hell for leather for 4 and a half hours trying to score a goal

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    I've always like that Budweiser idea of extra time mult-I-ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bertcocaine View Post
    What was wrong with the Golden Goal? Seemed a fairer solution than penalties to me. Never really understood why it was removed again..

    I didnīt like that it could be over all of a sudden. So after the goal the other team didnīt have a chance to react anymore. Thatīs why they introduced the silver goal but that was much worse

    red cards on pens are sometimes ok, but too many times itīs just too harsh imo. letīs say itīs 0-0 or 0-1 and you concede a pen with scoring opportunity (maybe even in 1st half still) the game is almost dead if the others score. so your trailing by 1 or 2 goals and play with less men.
    If you make a deliberate handball to prevent a goal than imo it deserves a red but everything else if it wouldnīt be a red outside of the box it shouldnīt be red inside of it. As the name says, the penalty is the penalty. If the others waste it, bad luck.

    but again, itīs just imo

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    They could always cut the cards for it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mucho View Post
    I didnīt like that it could be over all of a sudden. So after the goal the other team didnīt have a chance to react anymore. Thatīs why they introduced the silver goal but that was much worse

    red cards on pens are sometimes ok, but too many times itīs just too harsh imo. letīs say itīs 0-0 or 0-1 and you concede a pen with scoring opportunity (maybe even in 1st half still) the game is almost dead if the others score. so your trailing by 1 or 2 goals and play with less men.
    If you make a deliberate handball to prevent a goal than imo it deserves a red but everything else if it wouldnīt be a red outside of the box it shouldnīt be red inside of it. As the name says, the penalty is the penalty. If the others waste it, bad luck.

    but again, itīs just imo
    but of course, it's all about opinions. We don't have to agree.

    So if I'm a defender, it is cheating (and worthy of red) if I put my hand out to stop you scoring. However, if you've just skinned me, or I'm a lead foot and you out run me, and given it's a high level of sport there's a very good chance you are going to score with a free run on goal and only the keeper to beat.. I decide to trip you, knowing I can only get a yellow for a 'professional' foul? You'd see teams setting up for this, and once both centre halves had yellows, they rotate so they've always got a 'get out of jail free' card. You already see this in midfield, with regular cynical cards drawing yellows on the half way line when a team breaks, preventing a good run on a tiring defence who are pushing forward and would have been in trouble.

    Yes, i know what you mean about some reds being very harsh. There were a few in the Premier League this season, and I remember one that was rescinded on appeal as it was clearly daft, think it was Gary Cahill possibly, fouling a couple of feet into his own half near the touch line. But that's what I mean about interpretation.. the rule just says 'denial of a clear goal scoring opportunity' or something similar.. and different refs have different opinions depending on various factors.. like most problems in football it's not down to the rule being wrong in principal, it's there for a good reason, but it's vague and there is little consistency amongst refs. Some aren't even consistent with their own decisions.. same applies to plenty of things, like the 'dangerous' tackle that draws reds, and cries of 'since when is football a non-contact sport!', the various 'phases' of the offside rule, what consistutes violent conduct (so I can press my head against you, and push you, but hands raised to neck or face is suddenly 'violence'? wtf!)

    Football needs clearer rules. Refs are monitored, and have endless think tanks and training to follow the 'rules' consistently.. and the guidelines they work to (which change from season to season depending on FIFA's whims amongst others) are rarely clear to the fan whose trying to figure why his team got screwed by a decision while another seems to have gotten away with it..
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    No result after full time in Extra time?. Game should be replayed,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiggster View Post
    No result after full time in Extra time?. Game should be replayed,
    how does that work in Tournament football then? Or finals such as FA Cup or CL? Can't exactly add more games to the calender at that point?
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    blatter is just drunk as ususal...
    remember when he wanted bigger goals and suggested a blue card with 5 minutes suspension
    josef is a joke and a disgrace to the whole game
    after extra-time you have penalty----i like that...

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    hehe, yes I agree that you probably would have a free path and probably would score. But the same thing occurs on a penalty. Youīre there with the goalkeeper and no one else can interfere. I just think a red is too harsh unless itīs an obvious intend to cheat. But I understand why people disagree on that.

    But to stay on topic: I also hope this whole procedure stays like it is. after fullt time -> extra time -> pens.
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    How about all players dress as clowns for extra,extra time.

    Just an idea

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    If the game is drawn after extra time, each team should hold a series of private meetings with the individual members of the fifa select committee, who would then vote on who should be the winner.

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